St. Paul

[Will]

Beacon's blog post about Terry Knight and St. Paul. beaconfilms2011.blogspot.com/2013/08/terry-knight-was-inside-man.html

I looked into the sky
Everything was high
Higher than it seemed to be to me
Standing by the sea
Thinking I was free
Did I hear you call or was I dreaming then St. Paul..

You..knew it all along
Something had gone wrong
They couldn't hear your song of sadness in the air
While they were crying out beware
Your flowers and long hair
While you and Sgt Pepper saw the writing on the wall...

You saved one minute of your life to the future
They said you've got dues to pay today
You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..

Let me take you down down down down down down down down...

You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas really talk to you or did you put us on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton said it had to fall
Hey St Paul...

(Hey Jude reprise instrumental for a bit)

You saved one minute of your life to the future
They said you've got dues to pay today
You say it's a fool who plays it cool Sir
And if tomorrow comes you know they'll all hear St. Paul say..

I read the news today oh boy...

(ADITL orchestra build)

You had a different view
Hey there Paul what's new?
Did Judas talk to you or did you put the whole world on?
I think there's something wrong
It's taken you too long to change the world
Sir Isaac Newton told you it would fall

You didn't listen St Paul..

Hey Jude reprise..

Na..na na na na na na na na...Hey Paul
Na..na na na na na na na na...Hey Paul
(repeats)

Background:

You say yes, I say no I say hi...

Lucy in the sky with diamonds

She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah

Love is all you need (13 times)

[Will]

2 adds to this...

1. I think its entirely possible that Terry Knight was given the true meaning of Paul is Dead and wasn't just a participant in the rumor spreading...and do the songs used give clues to that???

2. I happened to work for RR Donnelley in Chicago where Time and Life were printed for many years and in fact was the last person to work in the Chicago complex, giving me quite a bit of access to old materials. This complex is not only where the Paul is Dead article came from, but the Zapruder film went here as well in 1963.

As part of working something out for a JFK assassination author who asked me to a few years back, I figured out that the production cycle for a Life issue was at least 1 week in advance of the date listed on the issue and probably 8-9 days. This is supported by the fact that the November 29th 1963 issue of Life was on Press at 12:30 on November 22nd 1963 when JFK was shot.

Te relevance is that this would put the Life issue of November 7th 1969 as being worked on as far back as October 29th or 30th, 1969. I don't know Cash Box' schedule, most likely you could tell by what date range the charts printed were.

That isn't to disagree with the assertion of inside knowledge in fact it might help support it...I have never been able to figure out to this day how Life was able to publish the FPS of the Zapruder camera before the FBI ever got their hands on the camera themselves...this seems similar.

[beacon]

Aug 23, 2013 10:23:06 GMT -5 Will said:

2 adds to this...

1. I think its entirely possible that Terry Knight was given the true meaning of Paul is Dead and wasn't just a participant in the rumor spreading...and do the songs used give clues to that???

2. I happened to work for RR Donnelley in Chicago where Time and Life were printed for many years and in fact was the last person to work in the Chicago complex, giving me quite a bit of access to old materials. This complex is not only where the Paul is Dead article came from, but the Zapruder film went here as well in 1963.

As part of working something out for a JFK assassination author who asked me to a few years back, I figured out that the production cycle for a Life issue was at least 1 week in advance of the date listed on the issue and probably 8-9 days. This is supported by the fact that the November 29th 1963 issue of Life was on Press at 12:30 on November 22nd 1963 when JFK was shot.

Te relevance is that this would put the Life issue of November 7th 1969 as being worked on as far back as October 29th or 30th, 1969. I don't know Cash Box' schedule, most likely you could tell by what date range the charts printed were.

That isn't to disagree with the assertion of inside knowledge in fact it might help support it...I have never been able to figure out to this day how Life was able to publish the FPS of the Zapruder camera before the FBI ever got their hands on the camera themselves...this seems similar.

Apologies for being away so long....great post. How do you know that the PID article originated there? I would be really interested to know.

can't add to much about the cash box ad, I bought the ad from ebay but that is all I got, not the entire magazine.

[Will]

All articles in Life go through a production cycle and then are submitted, in those days, to Chicago to appear in print. The PIA article would have had to be complete no less than 8 days before the date on the issue in order to appear in the November the issue of Life.

Most likely someone at Capitol was fed the info well in advance of the issue of Cash Box; it wasn't uncommon to have a lot of behind-the-scenes maneuvering at any magazine, Life especially. Do you know when the photo was shot of Paul that appeared on the cover?

I still think knowing the cycle will support Terry Knight's insider knowledge through Capitol...but it wasn't in reality a PID song, was it? Remember Rolling Stone heard the rumor in '68 and there are online references to that...

[beacon]

Sept 24, 2013 10:55:05 GMT -5 Will said:

All articles in Life go through a production cycle and then are submitted, in those days, to Chicago to appear in print. The PIA article would have had to be complete no less than 8 days before the date on the issue in order to appear in the November the issue of Life.

Most likely someone at Capitol was fed the info well in advance of the issue of Cash Box; it wasn't uncommon to have a lot of behind-the-scenes maneuvering at any magazine, Life especially. Do you know when the photo was shot of Paul that appeared on the cover?

I still think knowing the cycle will support Terry Knight's insider knowledge through Capitol...but it wasn't in reality a PID song, was it? Remember Rolling Stone heard the rumor in '68 and there are online references to that...

You are right, St Paul is not specifically a PID song, however, without doubt there is an attempt to cash in on PID by Knight or capitol or both. The line at the bottom of the poster 'now you understand its significance' is a blatant reference to PID. I don't know if the song was re-issued at the time, it was originally released in May 69, but if not why the ad?

I don't know when the Life photo was taken, but, interestingly he has considerably shorter hair in it than the official wire photo that was released on 22 October.


Also, in the youtube footage of him being harrased by reporters, which, presumably, was around the same time he has a pretty well developed beard which is absent in the life cover.



My take is that the Life piece was done in advance knowing that the storm was about to break but I shall do some more research.