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Aug 22, 2012 12:11:25 GMT -5
Post by Will on Aug 22, 2012 12:11:25 GMT -5
Indeed! The same day as the MDC poster scene was shot in Kent...
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Aug 22, 2012 12:21:42 GMT -5
Post by Will on Aug 22, 2012 12:21:42 GMT -5
Well, I've gotten affirmation from friends on this one so I know I'm not the only one that hears it. Are you sure we're listening to the same version? I listened to the video posted on your wordpress page. I don't have an option to split channels. So I listened very carefully more than once and even slowed down. I try listening very close for clues in music, mostly in reversals. Reversed music is how I found your 922 work and this forum. Infact, I have interpreted many songs on YouTube of Fishdelusions videos. About the thumbnail of the video, with the band pissing on the wall. Is it the album cover? I'm not sure. Anyway. Is it a reference to Kings 1 16:11? Sort of gesture against what the "New" King had ruled. Like a gesture saying "piss on you" ..? ...that's strange. I can't even hear it as meet anymore on this version...and yes the LP cover seems to reference just that. Pete said a few years back that the song was directed at Hippies, maybe the cover references that as well. ...all laid out in advance of anyone actually doing anything of course. Jane Asher's bedroom door in 1964. I guess they didn't see LSD (or Coe) in this either... Attachments:
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Aug 22, 2012 13:45:15 GMT -5
Post by Ter on Aug 22, 2012 13:45:15 GMT -5
Questions. Are the letters, in the word "Closed" on the door, highlighted in the original photo or are they highlighted specifically for a clue reference?
How is Jane Coe? Why is LSD referenced? Is it in the lyrics? Or is it a reference of when Paul and Jane where "studying" in India in 1968?
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Aug 22, 2012 17:24:05 GMT -5
Post by Will on Aug 22, 2012 17:24:05 GMT -5
Questions. Are the letters, in the word "Closed" on the door, highlighted in the original photo or are they highlighted specifically for a clue reference? How is Jane Coe? Why is LSD referenced? Is it in the lyrics? Or is it a reference of when Paul and Jane where "studying" in India in 1968? Not sure, I've seen the fish photo a couple of times now and have yet to see it without the LSD highlighted...only a couple of people would know for sure I guess but it's so brilliant that I hope it was laid out that way back then. I wouldn't say necessarily that Jane is Melanie; its just a wonderful sync with this... leading to this. What it highlights, if you choose to believe in such things; is that the teenagers leaving their conservative families and running off to California was the "plan" all along with LSD being the pathway to enlightenment that would spur this. In a more innocent way, this is the story She's Leaving Home was. Its kind of the embodiment of The Walrus and Haight-Asbury. I don't mean the Beatles planned it, and especially given that this fish is supposedly 1964 takes them totally out of it I think; something behind the scenes planned it through them which I've always believed anyways. The sign just sort of makes me wonder if this is being supernaturally spotlighted for that reason.
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Aug 22, 2012 19:06:47 GMT -5
Post by Ter on Aug 22, 2012 19:06:47 GMT -5
Yes it would be quite a remarkable clue to your theory. The first video I can't view for some reason...so I can't really say anything about it. The second video was neat how Melanie met Paul years before and how he had seen the article about her in the paper, inspiring the song. I wonder if Paul remembered her while he was writing the song or if the news paper mentioned the contest in the article. Also, it would be quite remarkable if, when Melanie won, the contest was the same year Jane's Photo was taken. The video did mention Melanie had won the contest four years, ( wiki ) has it being three years, before running away. The song then released in 1967.
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Aug 23, 2012 5:08:02 GMT -5
Post by beacon on Aug 23, 2012 5:08:02 GMT -5
Any 922 references in Sgt. Pepper? Well there's certainly an indirect one. In Rosemary's Baby, Guy takes the tie of Donald Baumgart during a Wednesday lunch and uses the tie to cause Baumgart's blindness, getting him the role he craved. This meeting was on September 22nd (9/22) 1965. Who played the voice of Baumgart in the movie? Sgt. Pepper luminary Tony Curtis... Not a 922 clue, however, Tony Curtis, as well as providing a vocal role in Rosemary's Baby, also appeared in Some Like It Hot with another Pepper luminary Marilyn Monroe. This movie, along with Who was that lady? The Outsider, Those daring young men in their jaunty jalopies and Wild and wonderful all starred Curtis and featured an art director by the name of Ted Haworth. Haworth who was close friends with Tony Curtis, and also Marlon Brando, was the father of Sgt Pepper co-designer Jann Haworth and advised on the construction of the Pepper set. Not sure what the Sgt Pepper connection is to the Time cover? Although the cartoon of the Beatles on the cover was drawn by Gerald Scarfe who would later marry Jane Asher.
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Aug 23, 2012 19:13:37 GMT -5
Post by Will on Aug 23, 2012 19:13:37 GMT -5
Any 922 references in Sgt. Pepper? Well there's certainly an indirect one. In Rosemary's Baby, Guy takes the tie of Donald Baumgart during a Wednesday lunch and uses the tie to cause Baumgart's blindness, getting him the role he craved. This meeting was on September 22nd (9/22) 1965. Who played the voice of Baumgart in the movie? Sgt. Pepper luminary Tony Curtis... Not a 922 clue, however, Tony Curtis, as well as providing a vocal role in Rosemary's Baby, also appeared in Some Like It Hot with another Pepper luminary Marilyn Monroe. This movie, along with Who was that lady? The Outsider, Those daring young men in their jaunty jalopies and Wild and wonderful all starred Curtis and featured an art director by the name of Ted Haworth. Haworth who was close friends with Tony Curtis, and also Marlon Brando, was the father of Sgt Pepper co-designer Jann Haworth and advised on the construction of the Pepper set. Not sure what the Sgt Pepper connection is to the Time cover? Although the cartoon of the Beatles on the cover was drawn by Gerald Scarfe who would later marry Jane Asher. Pretty cool, their world seems smaller than ours sometimes. I like some of the titles in the 9/22 Time edition, especially Georgia:The Little Governor --- Police: Behind the Blue Curtain --- Gibraltar: 99.2% Solid among others.
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Aug 23, 2012 20:40:22 GMT -5
Post by Ter on Aug 23, 2012 20:40:22 GMT -5
Basicly I thought the connection is how the article begins by mentioning the new Lp Sgt. Peppers, the Lp's cover design and how the beatles music is pushing boundaries like "painting a picture with sound". Maybe it could be counted as an indirect clue. Their new experimental style really shines forth with Sgt.Peppers.
The Gerald Scarfe connection is a good find beacon!
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Aug 24, 2012 3:24:51 GMT -5
Post by beacon on Aug 24, 2012 3:24:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Ter, I hadn't read the Time magazine so wasn't sure what its origin was.
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Aug 30, 2012 13:11:44 GMT -5
Post by Will on Aug 30, 2012 13:11:44 GMT -5
Re: Paul Is Dead True Story « Reply #13 on Aug 12, 2007, 1:18am » Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes.
Apollo C. Vermouth
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Playboy: But what about the charge that John Lennon is under Yoko's spell, under her control?
John: Well, that's rubbish, you know. Nobody controls me. I'm uncontrollable. The only one who controls me is me, and that's just barely possible.
Playboy: Still, many people believe it.
John: Listen, if somebody's gonna impress me, whether it be a Maharishi or a Yoko Ono, there comes a point when the emperor has no clothes. There comes a point when I will see. So for all you folks out there who think that I'm having the wool pulled over my eyes, well, that's an insult to me. Not that you think less of Yoko, because that's your problem. What I think of her is what counts! Because - fuck you, brother and sister - you don't know what's happening. I'm not here for you. I'm here for me and her and the baby!
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Aug 31, 2012 9:10:05 GMT -5
Post by beacon on Aug 31, 2012 9:10:05 GMT -5
Re: Paul Is Dead True Story « Reply #13 on Aug 12, 2007, 1:18am » Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes. Apollo C. Vermouth ------------- Playboy: But what about the charge that John Lennon is under Yoko's spell, under her control? John: Well, that's rubbish, you know. Nobody controls me. I'm uncontrollable. The only one who controls me is me, and that's just barely possible. Playboy: Still, many people believe it. John: Listen, if somebody's gonna impress me, whether it be a Maharishi or a Yoko Ono, there comes a point when the emperor has no clothes. There comes a point when I will see. So for all you folks out there who think that I'm having the wool pulled over my eyes, well, that's an insult to me. Not that you think less of Yoko, because that's your problem. What I think of her is what counts! Because - fuck you, brother and sister - you don't know what's happening. I'm not here for you. I'm here for me and her and the baby!
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Aug 31, 2012 10:10:57 GMT -5
Post by Will on Aug 31, 2012 10:10:57 GMT -5
Re: Paul Is Dead True Story « Reply #13 on Aug 12, 2007, 1:18am » Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes. Apollo C. Vermouth ------------- Playboy: But what about the charge that John Lennon is under Yoko's spell, under her control? John: Well, that's rubbish, you know. Nobody controls me. I'm uncontrollable. The only one who controls me is me, and that's just barely possible. Playboy: Still, many people believe it. John: Listen, if somebody's gonna impress me, whether it be a Maharishi or a Yoko Ono, there comes a point when the emperor has no clothes. There comes a point when I will see. So for all you folks out there who think that I'm having the wool pulled over my eyes, well, that's an insult to me. Not that you think less of Yoko, because that's your problem. What I think of her is what counts! Because - fuck you, brother and sister - you don't know what's happening. I'm not here for you. I'm here for me and her and the baby! Well, is Apollo really referring to John rather than Paul, and if so, what is he saying about him? What you said at NIR is right, people crawl out of the woodwork suddenly when certain people start digging too close...
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Sept 3, 2012 5:39:23 GMT -5
Post by beacon on Sept 3, 2012 5:39:23 GMT -5
Yoko Ono was born on February 18, 1933, in her ancestral estate in Tokyo. Her father, named Eisuke Ono, was the descendant of a 9th Century Emperor of Japan www.imdb.com/name/nm0648780/bioTo be honest, I wish I could decipher the writings of Apollo, particularly the quote you refer too. I like to think his posts were meant to be beneficial but maybe they were part of the smokescreen? You may be right that they refer to John and not Paul but I guess we will probably never know?
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Sept 4, 2012 10:18:58 GMT -5
Post by Will on Sept 4, 2012 10:18:58 GMT -5
Yoko Ono was born on February 18, 1933, in her ancestral estate in Tokyo. Her father, named Eisuke Ono, was the descendant of a 9th Century Emperor of Japan www.imdb.com/name/nm0648780/bioTo be honest, I wish I could decipher the writings of Apollo, particularly the quote you refer too. I like to think his posts were meant to be beneficial but maybe they were part of the smokescreen? You may be right that they refer to John and not Paul but I guess we will probably never know? Well at least three of the clues seem to pertain directly towards John now. I think it's about MPTJ, proving he was referring to that probably can't be done though...
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Sept 5, 2012 5:20:45 GMT -5
Post by beacon on Sept 5, 2012 5:20:45 GMT -5
Well at least three of the clues seem to pertain directly towards John now. I think it's about MPTJ, proving he was referring to that probably can't be done though... I agree to the extent that MPTJ was the catalyst. The inspiration for Lennon comparing the Beatles to Jesus was his reading of the Passover Plot. This he obtained from the Indica bookshop which was run by Barry Miles. They met Miles because McCartney was living with Jane Asher, whose brother Peter was friends with John Dunbar who shared his gallery space with Miles and his bookshop. You know all this, but my point is none of this is coincidence. The Beatles were being steered in a very specific direction. Whether anyone predicted the response that Johns comments provoked in the Bible belt I think is unlikely. Maybe that caused a change of tack and initiated the need for the Pepper clues. Who knows, just thinking out loud really!
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