Sept 12 1966 Monkees Premiere

[Will]

There are now a few references on various Message Boards, including NIR, about an announcement during the Monkees premiere episode about a car crash involving one of the Beatles on Sept 12 1966. This apparently took place in the NY/NJ/PA area only and then there was no follow up after the initial newsbreak. Does anyone have any info regarding this?

[Will]

Now, I don't ask because I think Paul died, but I am very interested in when this story of a car accident was first brought to public attention and its not like we're talking about a couple of people talking at a party or other innuendo that is easy to refute, tens (hundreds?) of thousands at the very least had to hear this...and why therefore has it been so obscured?



September 13th 1966 at the Melody Maker awards, Paul looks alive and quite shiny yet, nevertheless the mystery persists...

[bandi]

Yes, it happened.

I heard it on the break during the Monkees TV show. The announcer stated during a commercial break that "a member of the Beatles involved in a fatal car crash, story at eleven".
I waited for and then watched the same channels news that came on at eleven. No further information was given. It was like there was never an announcement of a fatal crash involving a Beatle was made during the Monkees commercial.
But it was real and I heard it. Never to be heard or talked about again.
Was this to plant the rumor to follow for the next 50 years or was it something that the head of the studio was told to quash after it leaked out during the commercial break ?

[Will]

There seem to be a number of reputable people on PID forums that insist this happened, and virtually nothing outside of PID forums. I believe it and you, I just don't understand how this is never referred to anywhere else. Its like it is totally scrubbed from Pop Culture history.

Getting past that though, if it happened I personally think it would have been deliberate; and I always have the same thought when I think about it: that this episode was sponsored by Kellogg's and its not like the Beatles work that followed was devoid of Kellogg's references.

[because]

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[Will]

Jan 25, 2016 11:16:22 GMT -5 because said:

I heard it too. Exactly as Bandi reported.

"Randy Scouse Git"

She's a wonderful lady
And she's mine all mine
And there doesn't seem a way
That she won't come and lose my mind.
It's too easy humming songs
To a girl in yellow dress
It's been a long time since the party
And the room is in a mess.

The four kings of E.M.I.
Are sitting stately on the floor
There are birds out on the sidewalk
And a valet at the door.
He reminds me of a penguin
With few and plastered hair,
There's talcum powder on the letter
And the birthday boy is there.

Why don't you cut your hair?
Why don't you live up there?
Why don't you do what I do,
See what I feel when I care?

Now they've darkened all the windows
And the seats are naugh-a-hyde.
I've been waiting for an hour,
I can't find a place to hide.
The being known as Wonder Girl
Is speaking I believe.
It's not easy tryin' to tell her
That I shortly have to leave.

Why don't you be like me?
Why don't you stop and see?
Why don't you hate who I hate,
Kill who I kill to be free.

[Progressive scat vocals]

Why don't you cut your hair?
Why don't you live up there?
Why don't you do what I do,
See what I feel when I care?
Why don't you be like me?
Why don't you stop and see?
Why don't you hate who I hate,
Kill who I kill to be free.

I know people have their own reasoning for why this would have happened, but this to me is extremely significant. It shows the Monkees not only referencing the Beatles but actually writing about the potential motivation for Sgt. Pepper, before Sgt. Pepper came out.

To me, this makes the possibility of the Beatles doing something deliberate during the Monkees' premiere episode to be extremely high.

[Will]

I should also add that I think it makes searching the lyrics etc...for clues to this to be highly lucrative.



I don't know how they got away with putting Good Morning Good Morning into their last episode, but they did.

[some guy]

I never really spoke much about this after it happened. I know what I had heard. I may have only been ten years old but it is as clear now as the night I heard it. My mother was in the kitchen which was close to where the TV was in the next room and she heard it also. She rushed over to the little B&W TV set that I watched the Monkees on and said "Oh my gosh. I wonder which one was killed..."
She let me stay up late to watch for the announcement on the eleven o'clock news which was supposedly to have the big announcement. But nothing was mentioned that night or any other night. It was like it never happened.
This made me wonder a couple of different things. One, did it happened and then it was quashed ? Two, was the announcement made to start the whole affair of clues and hints and imaginings ? Was this JPM's way to get the hell out of the entertainment business ? I knew he wanted out--ie: Paperback Writer...The David Frost interview...could this TV blurb have been put out there so he could disappear, maybe get some plastic surgery and become someone else ? Remember, the following month--Oct. 1966--the movie 'Seconds' comes out, where Rock Hudson pays money to 'become' someone else because of his distaste for celebrity-hood...take into account all the things--Alice in Wonderland, besides many other stories and literature about this whole scenario couched or presented in ways that are hard to connect but for the few, intelligent and observing people...then there's the Lennon drawing of the man with his head exploded, with a shovel in one hand and a dog in the other, standing on what looks like freshly dug earth...and the guy in the drawing, besides his suffering what appears to be extremely horrific head wounds also has what looks like his ankles broken as he stands there in what appears to be Beatle Boots, standing there as if he fell from a great height or as if his body met something that stopped its very very fast forward momentum...was this drawing something that Lennon witnesses in real life or was this something he was shown in a photo of his pal JPM...could JL have been shown something while he was hypnotized that he then drew later that appears that it could be JPM standing there, somewhere between life and death as if he was dead yet standing up...this is all too much. What the hell happened fifty years ago ? Will we ever be told, will the truth ever come out ? Too much, too much...

[Will]

Jan 25, 2016 21:58:55 GMT -5 Will said:

Jan 25, 2016 11:16:22 GMT -5 because said:

I heard it too. Exactly as Bandi reported.

"Randy Scouse Git"

She's a wonderful lady
And she's mine all mine
And there doesn't seem a way
That she won't come and lose my mind.
It's too easy humming songs
To a girl in yellow dress
It's been a long time since the party
And the room is in a mess.

The four kings of E.M.I.
Are sitting stately on the floor
There are birds out on the sidewalk
And a valet at the door.
He reminds me of a penguin
With few and plastered hair,
There's talcum powder on the letter
And the birthday boy is there.

Why don't you cut your hair?
Why don't you live up there?
Why don't you do what I do,
See what I feel when I care?

Now they've darkened all the windows
And the seats are naugh-a-hyde.
I've been waiting for an hour,
I can't find a place to hide.
The being known as Wonder Girl
Is speaking I believe.
It's not easy tryin' to tell her
That I shortly have to leave.

Why don't you be like me?
Why don't you stop and see?
Why don't you hate who I hate,
Kill who I kill to be free.

[Progressive scat vocals]

Why don't you cut your hair?
Why don't you live up there?
Why don't you do what I do,
See what I feel when I care?
Why don't you be like me?
Why don't you stop and see?
Why don't you hate who I hate,
Kill who I kill to be free.

I know people have their own reasoning for why this would have happened, but this to me is extremely significant. It shows the Monkees not only referencing the Beatles but actually writing about the potential motivation for Sgt. Pepper, before Sgt. Pepper came out.

To me, this makes the possibility of the Beatles doing something deliberate during the Monkees' premiere episode to be extremely high.

To add a timeline to this observation, it is believed that the Monkees were at George's birthday party in Feb of 1967 and that is what this song is based upon; so this would mean that the Monkees and the Beatles were hanging out during the time of Sgt. Pepper's production; the Monkees' album containing this song came out in May of '67 just Pre-Sgt. Pepper. This is a ultra-rare reference to what could have been driving Pepper, just before Pepper.

[Duane]

Aug 25, 2016 13:21:20 GMT -5 some guy said:

I never really spoke much about this after it happened. I know what I had heard. I may have only been ten years old but it is as clear now as the night I heard it. My mother was in the kitchen which was close to where the TV was in the next room and she heard it also. She rushed over to the little B&W TV set that I watched the Monkees on and said "Oh my gosh. I wonder which one was killed..."
She let me stay up late to watch for the announcement on the eleven o'clock news which was supposedly to have the big announcement. But nothing was mentioned that night or any other night. It was like it never happened.
This made me wonder a couple of different things. One, did it happened and then it was quashed ? Two, was the announcement made to start the whole affair of clues and hints and imaginings ? Was this JPM's way to get the hell out of the entertainment business ? I knew he wanted out--ie: Paperback Writer...The David Frost interview...could this TV blurb have been put out there so he could disappear, maybe get some plastic surgery and become someone else ? Remember, the following month--Oct. 1966--the movie 'Seconds' comes out, where Rock Hudson pays money to 'become' someone else because of his distaste for celebrity-hood...take into account all the things--Alice in Wonderland, besides many other stories and literature about this whole scenario couched or presented in ways that are hard to connect but for the few, intelligent and observing people...then there's the Lennon drawing of the man with his head exploded, with a shovel in one hand and a dog in the other, standing on what looks like freshly dug earth...and the guy in the drawing, besides his suffering what appears to be extremely horrific head wounds also has what looks like his ankles broken as he stands there in what appears to be Beatle Boots, standing there as if he fell from a great height or as if his body met something that stopped its very very fast forward momentum...was this drawing something that Lennon witnesses in real life or was this something he was shown in a photo of his pal JPM...could JL have been shown something while he was hypnotized that he then drew later that appears that it could be JPM standing there, somewhere between life and death as if he was dead yet standing up...this is all too much. What the hell happened fifty years ago ? Will we ever be told, will the truth ever come out ? Too much, too much...



I believe that they announced it. Then may have been told to drop it by Brian Epstein and those in some kind of authority. 


If they announced Paul dying, it would have created a mass hysteria worldwide. I think there may have been suicides and fans freaking out over it. The Beatles were huge and like God's to the fans at that time, Especially the female fans. 
I also believe there were plans for the Beatles as far as their careers went. Also there were investors, record companies, and other businesses that made money off the band and for the Beatles to break up over Paul's death would have ruined everything. So they had to get a look alike to keep things going for the money and the Beatles legacy. Nobody else could have replaced Paul. The Beatles were too established to get new members. I think their popularity would have wained if they got a new guy in the band and they would have broke up. I believe Paul died and it was covered up. 

[Mr. Annon]

It was all premeditated. Paul died (in a car "crash," not in an automobile "accident") on 11 Sep 1966. The next day, the Monkees were on our screens. See www.BillyShears.com/5.htm

[Maddie]

Paul's double used for the Melody Maker Award had already made several other appearances for him in 1965-1966. That double was not the one selected to replace Paul permanently.