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Post by Ter on Aug 1, 2012 0:53:11 GMT -5
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Post by Ter on Aug 1, 2012 1:38:31 GMT -5
Just wandering if you have any thoughts on any of the conspiracy theories and/or end time predictions about December, 2012? There are so many out there on the web/net it seems overwhelming once you start looking into some. I mean, I know it's nothing new. It just seems like it's escalating more and more here recently on the internet. Maybe because Decembers getting closer.
There's the Mayan calendar ending in December, 2012. Some say it's the return of the Mayan plumed serpent, Quetzalcoatl. Others say it's a new age of enlightenment of what is being called Alien disclosure.
Theres the government conspiracy of mind control and martial law leading into the coverup of global disaster.
Mixed in with Jesus returning.
Then there's the planet X or Nibiru or heavy mass object making a return ( crossing) through the solar system, talked about in ancient times and is supposedly the reasons for the Earths past cataclysms and ice ages.
Biblical revelations of a comet wormwood or an asteroidal impact on the Earth.
Also there's Nostredomus predictions.
Then there's tons of other predictions and formulas and interpretations and theories mixed in with the "buy my book" guys. No offense. Just was wandering if any of you are interested or researched any other stuff than the beatles.
I mean, I know you ,Will , have the 922 thing going on and since you do a ton of research you most likely have come across a lot of these type matters.
What do you think?
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Post by Ter on Aug 1, 2012 2:27:59 GMT -5
I have a reaccuring visionary type thought of a theory!?...
I haven't seen any other theory "Yet" about what I saw in a vision, except maybe some things about the return of JC or what have you.
It's been talked about on very many sights about the "great year" or " galactic year".
Where as the time it takes for the zodiac to make a complete revolution or "turn". Just as a hand on a clock has to make complete turn, the twelve zodiacal houses make a full "turn". It makes one complete revolution ,roughly, every 25,000 years.
Now, my theory is just a rough imaginative one. I dont want to piss anyone off or offend! Im only theorizing or wondering what if out of possibities, but here it is, in the biblical sense you have the Christian believing in a savior who has came and went and are awaiting the return of. Born December 25. ....12 / 25.
Then there's the judaean who is still awaiting the savior or messiah to come.
With all the interpretations of the revalations out there now, about how the false prophet is to come first and then the Savior. Is it possible the false savior has came long ago Aka JC?
Is it also possible the birth of the messiah is infact a 12 / 25 birth? Arriving in 2012?
Because the 12 zodiacal costalations will have completed one full turn of a 25,000 year cycle in December, 2012.
12/25
Weird huh?
What do you think?
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Post by Will on Aug 4, 2012 7:37:38 GMT -5
Doom!!!
I think if you pay attention to the spiritual realms, you can get a sense of what may be ordained and there isn't much point in guessing if you don't or can't discern properly. 6/66 seems to have been a key point; and it did come precisely 922 days after 11/22/63 so your theory on Christmas 2012 could have some validity.
2012 is contrived though if someone hasn't specifically pointed at this year; my conclusion is that there are two "teams" or one team pretending to be two (good/evil). Aurora was a pretty strong clue; day and night is a pretty dominant theme in all of this and is very symbolic of something changing and was referred to over and over in the sixties music.
However if "God" is in play, He functions on a timeline all His own and 2012 probably represents knowledge from the other "team" and not his. Jesus didn't show up exactly on time per the Julian calendar; He showed up on a generational calendar which was regarded as good enough for God. Deep down, I'd like to think I have the topic and subject matter to cause something too, but realistically how often has that ever happened in human history?
My point being that it's better to try and write a good story that may resonate with people than to rush to hit a date; as it was with JFK and Beatlemania if it's ordained it will happen on time. What I have been researching all along is evidence of spiritual warfare at play in post Biblical history with the idea that the Bible is a flawed book written by people; but that doesn't mean there is no God and the "flaws" may in fact be the gateway into the end times, if that makes sense. I just think the Beatles were at the center of this story because one of the members I believe was tagged 922 by God.
In 1963, the Beatles were ready to step up when the change happened, the next change will happen I think when whoever is ordained to step up is ready also, 2012 or otherwise...
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Post by Ter on Aug 5, 2012 18:13:07 GMT -5
Good points I suppose, just as well as any.
Although, I'm confused a bit on parts of your last post.
You stated; ( Jesus didn't show up exactly on time per the Julian calendar; He showed up on a generational calendar which was regarded as good enough for God.)
Yet here you state; ( as it was with JFK and Beatlemania if it's ordained it will happen on time.)
Now is the "generational calendar,"which Jesus showed up on, as "Ordained" as JFK and Beatlemania is ordained?
I don't mean to pick apart what you wrote. It's just sometimes I'm slow at comprehension.
Thank you for responding.
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Post by Will on Aug 6, 2012 7:18:16 GMT -5
God's time and what we expect aren't always the same thing. If 12/21/2012 is it, then someone will be ready on that date.
If it's the end of an age and beginning of another, the date of the change could be a variable based at least in part on free will. The point regarding ordained though is that if significant change happens through some work or event, then "they" will wait until the work or event happens and only then sparks will fly.
(assuming there are in fact two teams) I don't think God lets demons dictate to Him, thats probably the key point as to why He could use a timeline that is close to what everyone is waiting for but a little bit off. It was known Jesus was coming but not exactly when.
However my view on the Beatles and JFK is that this was ordained by God, or allowed; but it wasn't caused by God and so the synchronicity is therefore critical in order to communicate who is in charge.
That's why I think what you found in TSMR was significant; James 1:13 is a key verse in understanding why God would let something happen that seems out of character, as if He had something against JFK. In fact, He allows as part of a bigger plan but it is demonically contrived and carried out.
This actually is part of why I think a good story is important as a means to explain all of this, because it isn't easily apparent how this interplay functions as a system and I take a long time to gradually explain what I believe through the story.
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Post by Ter on Aug 11, 2012 14:11:49 GMT -5
Ok. Thanks for the response again. Still a little ...uh... Huuuu?? Lol Not as much as before though. Don't let me bother you with questions. I know you're probally a very busy person. So thanks again for the response.
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Post by Will on Aug 15, 2012 10:55:07 GMT -5
....sheesh, I'll try again. A. God is responsible for 12/21/12 and the date is significant to Him. Then who or whatever is ordained will be ready on that date and it will happen per God's Will. B. God is responsible for a change triggered on or around 12/21/12 and if so, He maintains His own timing and may allow human free will to play a role in the actual date of the change. C. God allows Satan to author the change triggered by 12/21/12 and one would then presume that the date itself will hold significance and who or whatever will be ready on that date. My point though is that if occultic influences were in play in determining 12/21/12, God won't have a date dictated to Him and that is my suspicion.
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